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Anton • 5 days ago
Has forced? Church Fathers were tortured and killed and these ”christians” cant even face a school shutdown. A disgrace for the parents and the so called christians of this school.

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John Clark Anton • 2 days ago
The LDS were railroaded out of Mississippi; some hung yes. In a less tolerant time the teachings didn’t go over with the general population. This was pretty much standard fare of the day.

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Anton John Clark • 2 days ago
Tolerance is the virtue of a man without convictions.

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Anton Guest • a day ago
What

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jeff • 4 days ago
The NDP better be wiped out come the next election. This BS has to end.

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John Clark jeff • a day ago
You are Jaded. The exiting Conservatives tapped the Heritage Trust fund for 760 billion dollars by capping the fund at 5% profit throughout our highest income years. This was to support the 10% flat tax or rather the flat tax was seen as a way to spend it.
In the same period of time Norway banked more than 1 trillion dollars! Ocean or prairie makes no difference. This is a gallon for gallon comparison.
Notley, working under this disadvantage managed to pull Alberta up to the number producing province in Canada! She did this by turning windfarm construction over to oil companies in trouble with the down turn.

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doug John Clark • a day ago
This explains the debt to cash on hand in 2013.
‘First, the oil fund is a mathematical artifice. At three-quarters of a trillion dollars, the Norwegian Oil Fund appears to provide plenty for a country with scarcely 5 million citizens. Yet the country has accumulated a foreign debt that, at $657 billion, is almost as massive. Subtracting the debt from the fund’s $740 billion leaves a balance of only $83 billion. In other words, there is a treasure chest, but it is almost empty: Njord’s prize for future generations is only a little more than 10 percent of its putative value.’ https://www.washingtontimes…

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John Clark doug • a day ago
Norway was/is the world bank for the EU. When money is lent to other countries it is counted as a debt. Cancelling foreign debt is a tried and true way of balancing the books.

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doug John Clark • a day ago
http://www.edmontonjournal….

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doug John Clark • a day ago
‘In the same period of time Norway banked more than 1 trillion dollars!’
And what is Norways debt? Comparing Norway to Alberta is flawed from the start. Norway does not send billions each year to a government that redistributes it for votes. Norway has a huge tax system that keeps people down. https://www.sovereignman.co…

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To the effect Norway was the banker of the EU during the downturn.  Money loaned is set up as a debt.   Forgiving foreign debts is a mechanisim used by Governments often.
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John Clark doug • a day ago
There is no huge pile of cash sitting anywhere in Alberta ready to be transferred to Ottawa! The transfer payments of which you speak comes out of Ottawa’s portion of the general tax base. The distribution is by legal formula. Even Conservatives have to do it.
Norway has an income system percentage wise is similar to Canada’s. Every citizen of Norway gets state of the art medical coverage and a broad based social system attends to citizens from the cradle to the grave.
They have an economy of scale; A 50 dollar hamburger is served to you by a 100,000 dollar a year waiter.
Using straight numbers, every individual in Norway is a millionaire.

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doug John Clark • a day ago
I guess you don’t like to see anything that distorts your view of Norway being the utopia you think it is. Spinning how ottawa get money from Alberta does not change the fact Norway does not send billions to a central government but I see you’ve tried, which is normal for most marxists to do.
You didn’t read any of the articles I supplied did you? That is not surprising as it would explain how a 50 dollar hamburger delivered by a 100000 dollar a year waiter is not the way it is.
Maybe read & research about things before you make comments, it will help you understand the reality of Norway & show you the flawed claims you made.

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Vapor Trails • 5 days ago
Am I missing something, or aren’t there any Canadians at all who are speaking out against this obvious satanism? I read these stories, but have yet to read a single one that states the Canadians are fighting this indoctrination tooth & nail. I realize that the Canadians keep electing this filth to office, but aren’t there any good people up north anymore? Where are they?

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dmscotland • 4 days ago
Now where have I seen that before? Where have I seen the case of Conservatives gaining power, having the “power” to repeal Leftist policies, but then not doing it? Hhhmmm……I believe I’ve seen that happen in America. Trump took office. He and Republican-controlled House and Senate MOST DEFINITELY have the power to repeal Roe V. Wade AND the “Gay Marriage law” of June 26, 2015, neither of which have happened, yet. But who knows. With Kav on the SCOTUS, it might just happen. I pray it does! As for Canada, O, how I pray for you often, dear beloved Canada! Due to leftists, you have lost your “shine”. I pray you someday get it back! VOTE THE DEMOCRAT COMMUNISTS **OUT** NOW, Canada, it’s the ONLY way!

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John Clark dmscotland • 3 days ago
Wow! Things like Roe V. Wade are ingrained in the Republican Conservative world to be “overcome” The Christian right, firmly in charge. What I find distressing is the fact a foreign power is running for political office in Canada and has, on several occasions got it.
Harper and Kenny were run out of Trade Negations’ in Asia and the EU. No one could be this unlucky! It was a deliberate loss to throw the Advantage to the US! Trump has been on a course of destruction as far as international trade agreements are concerned. In hand with Putin of all people.
Harper selling the Wheat Marketing Board against the wishes of the Farmers (except those in the Closter of the LDS in the south) I find particularly offensive. Likewise Diefenbaker’s give away of the Avro Aero to the US and destroying the single flying porotype of the aircraft. Thus keeping Canada out of an important and opportunistic chance of an advanced aircraft manufacturing industry. The Avro was a world leader at the time.
Most of all I wonder what good is @CSIS is that they allowed all this to pass unchallenged.

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Donzo • 4 days ago
Rise up and pray for Alberta ! Vote these backwards communists out now !

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John Clark Donzo • a day ago
That’s just dumb!

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Zuzana Simpson • 4 days ago
Ontarians dealt with it swiftly by electing Doug Ford.

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John Clark Zuzana Simpson • a day ago
Yes based on dissatisfaction brought about by years of dwindling trade prospect. Mind you I think the Liberals could have done better explaining the situation to the voters. They failed in this.
Ford in cutting all the environmental initiatives dropped 3 billion dollars from the provinces coffers. When Ford killed the power companies board and chairman they threw pension funds around the country into chaos. No thought was given to the problems it would cause. Short cited theatrics. By the time his reign is over the people of Ontario will be searching for still another one day wonder.

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Morgan • 4 days ago
Leftism is evil… Get out and vote!!

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John Clark Morgan • a day ago
Yes, get out and vote. I wish I had the formula for turning out the vote, but, I don’t.

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DownToEarth • 2 days ago
:)))

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DownToEarth • 3 days ago
…. and Canada (including Alberta) is perceived by many as a free country, eh? Alberta’s government are using sugar-coated tricks used before by totalitarian regimes and dictators. “Do what I tell you or…”. I hope such stupid moves done by governments will open eyes of those who still refuse to see the truth. Canada is going down the drain and Alberta is leading the way!

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DownToEarth Guest • 2 days ago
I read enough of international press, and I read it in 2 languages. I’m afraid you meant read more left wing international press, to which I would have to say no, because I have to get to trust those guys first! “… shallow and plainly stupid…” – you certainly have the right to your opinion. I will not express mine though – they would not be nice…. dream on my friend. Bye!

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doug • 5 days ago
The nutly ndpee are dictators. Their policy would show it if anyone actually bothered to research their policies & history.

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John Clark doug • a day ago
The LDS is a cult if anyone would take the time to read their history and policies.

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John Clark • 4 days ago
You speak of left and intermittent. This left Government has brought this province up to the number 1 economic force in Canada. The Christian right driving the Conservatives is wrong in thinking that homosexuality is a stray thought or a passing fad that can be starved or beat out of a person. Your positions are terribly wrong.
Another thing is the LCBQ is a haven for people to come and discuss their situations without the hassle of the bullies in class or the administration. It is a safe venue of discussion and if you are shaken by this you should examine your own tenuous sexuality.

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DownToEarth John Clark • 3 days ago
I thought it was the oil that brought Alberta up to #1 not the NDP. Any party would do it if elected.
I don’t think any true Christian wants to beat or starve anybody, even the enemy! That is the very base of being a Christian! Homosexuality in itself is not stray, but some of its extreme behaviour, manifested and promoted beyond rational level, can be stray! Nowadays,the promiscuous aspect of this “condition” spills out in a perverted way, exposing minors and spoiling them – that is bad, and must not be allowed. It is common sense.
I believe that democracy without values will eventually turn into anarchy. The left-thinking governments are removing the values (by tolerating almost everything that exists in the world, regardless whether it is good or evil) and that is what Canada and many other, so called developed countries, are facing in the coming decades. The Roman Empire has fallen in just this way. History should teach us at least that! I have no fear of the “left” being bad, I know it will be defeated when the right time comes!

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John Clark DownToEarth • 3 days ago
You are wrong again. The NDP took office after conservative policies came to roost. The Conservative/Republicans took 760 Billion dollars from the Heritage Trust fund to run their 10% income tax scam. This is where larger companies (oil) took huge deductions and a low rate. During this same period of time Norway banked over 1 trillion dollars with just 1/2 of Alberta’s production. Oil from land or ocean makes no difference it is a gallon by gallon comparison.
The Conservatives (Ralph Klein) pegged the profits of the Heritage at 5% throughout our highest revenue years. This left the bank broke when a never party took over. The Republican trickle down does not get to the walk about population! It is an elitist corporate political party.
Against incredible odds the NDP has brought this province forward.

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DownToEarth John Clark • 2 days ago
I never said Conservatives running Alberta were good willed. They could have done with the money what NDP did too if there was good will amongst them. My point was, I am doubtful if NDP could repeat the trick in, say, Nova Scotia or even Ontario, where there is no oil, in a province that did not experience big boom-time like Alberta once did. There are lots of “false Conservatives” in PC party that are not conservative at all. The cleanup process has started, we are to wait and see if it will ever bear fruit.
NDP to me, on the other hand, even though it may seem financially successful in Alberta, may still prove disastrous in the long run. Hitler’s party also turned Germany around to be fiscally flourishing, yet it was evil at the same time. I am afraid NDP reminds me of the Nazi party a lot, even though it is not nationalistic. As the above article states, NDP takes away our Constitutionally guaranteed freedom (of religion in this particular case). Who knows what will they take next. They play the social Marxism game and it is WRONG and EVIL!

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John Clark DownToEarth • a day ago
I am astounded on how Hitler (right wing) and Marxist (Left wing) is brought into every conversation when one of the parties run out of argument.

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doug John Clark • a day ago
Hitler, (national socialist party). Marxist, (communist) Karl Marx.

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DownToEarth Guest • 2 days ago
There is no knowledge on homosexuality being DNA determined, as far as I know. We don’t know if it its socially conditioned or based on genes. We don’t know if it cannot be cured either. Your sources must be very different from mine.
Neither I or anybody I respect are against homosexuality or homosexuals!!! Do not put words in my mouth please. I may condone actions of certain homosexual individuals, like I would in case of actions of any “straight” person engaging in wrongdoing. I condone promiscuous homosexual demonstrations, pride parades which are vulgar and obscene (just google for some images) – and very very NOT CIVIL!!!! I feel this gender ideology is being pushed on me against my will, and pushed too strong, considering only a small percentage of the population is homosexual. I have gay friends who DO NOT support such “advocacy” either.
I condone those who “take relish” in tormenting anyone, regardless of their sex orientation. I am also not labelling people, but if I see wrongdoing I will speak out about the deed (not the person), and will use no labels to people (where did you get this idea from – you must be hanging around a wrong crowd(.
The parallel I drew between NDP and Hitler should be obvious if you read the article, to which we are both supplying comments 🙂 If NDP is saying it will deny accreditation to Christian schools if they don’t follow NDP’s requests (which are contrary to their beliefs) then where is freedom of religion in such Hitler-like behaviour? I don’t know what statistics of teen-suicide rates you are referring to, but suicides are on the increase for sure. I blame, the society with no values for it, and here I mean the values that brought civility to this world. I am talking about several hundred years of civility, not just decades.
I was never in the closet, so I don’t have to come out of one. Perhaps you should be more open minded (as opposed to being discriminatory) to people of faith, because if they truly are people of faith, no harm will come your way from them!

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John Clark DownToEarth • a day ago
Under the Conservatives, the Christian Schools received an unusually large amount of funding, far more than the public or catholic school systems did. This was a source of vex for a lot of people.
The NDP I think are correct in giving these people protection from the system at large.

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John Clark DownToEarth • 2 days ago
I’m not saying you should go into a parade; or not. Your reference to “cannot be cured” says it all. No, my friend I leave you to your very busy life.
Brother John.

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